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	<title>Comments on: Proposal: Stretch elements(s) via CSS</title>
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		<title>By: gbbqyp</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 01:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Xanthir, FCD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xanthir, FCD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 21:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Communicated with the author privately on the CSS list, but posting here as well to address this in a public manner.)

The proposal as written is somewhat unnecessary.  Most real-life scenarios where this is needed (the ever-present multi-column layout that you use as your example is one) can be handled right now in modern browsers (including the newly release IE8) with the table-* display types.  Wrap the multiple columns in a container div set to display:table, then make the columns display:table-cell and they&#039;ll automatically stretch to the same height.

Now, using a container div isn&#039;t ideal, but thems the breaks when you try to use CSS, which is still not quite a layout language, for layout purposes.  (Though this is still way better than the *horrendous* float-based hacks common these days.)  Some of the new proposals will help out with that.  Template Layout, frex, is *designed* to add major layout capabilities to CSS in a super-simple, easy-to-understand way.

You vaguely disparage Template Layout as using &quot;ASCII art&quot;, but seriously, don&#039;t knock it til you try it.  It&#039;s *awesome* in use, and ridiculously easy.  (I&#039;m currently using Alex Deviera&#039;s js implementation of it on a few toy sites, and *man* does it make layout easy.)</description>
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<p>The proposal as written is somewhat unnecessary.  Most real-life scenarios where this is needed (the ever-present multi-column layout that you use as your example is one) can be handled right now in modern browsers (including the newly release IE8) with the table-* display types.  Wrap the multiple columns in a container div set to display:table, then make the columns display:table-cell and they&#8217;ll automatically stretch to the same height.</p>
<p>Now, using a container div isn&#8217;t ideal, but thems the breaks when you try to use CSS, which is still not quite a layout language, for layout purposes.  (Though this is still way better than the *horrendous* float-based hacks common these days.)  Some of the new proposals will help out with that.  Template Layout, frex, is *designed* to add major layout capabilities to CSS in a super-simple, easy-to-understand way.</p>
<p>You vaguely disparage Template Layout as using &#8220;ASCII art&#8221;, but seriously, don&#8217;t knock it til you try it.  It&#8217;s *awesome* in use, and ridiculously easy.  (I&#8217;m currently using Alex Deviera&#8217;s js implementation of it on a few toy sites, and *man* does it make layout easy.)</p>
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